At this point in this European mess about refugees Hungary seems to be the only Schengen country that is trying to stick to the letter of the law, and this is causing incredible problems. The EU so far has been unable to find a solution, and a recent statement by Angela Merkel – saying that Syrian refugees will be accepted – has now caused many of these unfortunate people to claim they are Syrian… and there is no way to tell, because many of them don’t have papers at all. But that’s not the biggest problem. Say we are able to separate Syrians from the other migrants. According to the rules of the Dublin Regulation and the Schengen Agreement, Hungary is not supposed to just let migrants travel without the proper documentation. A German politician wanted to launch infringement procedures against Hungary and Austria for letting migrants make their way to Germany, because it’s clearly a violation of the Dublin Regulation. So now we are not letting them travel, which of course prompted opposition politicians and civil rights movements to start bashing the government. So Hungary is basically hammered for not letting migrants board trains to the west and Hungary is hammered if authorities let migrants board trains to the west. The very definition of being between a rock and a hard place.
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I applaud the Hungarian leadership for resisting the irrational and counter-productive indignation of western European opinion. I believe Hungary, along with the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Poland are destined to become the last redoubt of western civilization.
your countries are not the light in the sky just you refuse to sit with EU on a table and talk refugee problem.
One day refugees come to you, than maybe germans dont talk.
German man,
This is Magyar man, remember how we put you in you place. Don’t for a minute think that you have a country when you can’t protect your own borders. The ‘VISEGRAD 4′ , WILL protect their borders, enjoy your BAKLEVA and Turkish coffee. Mother ANGELA has already said, GERMANY , WILL change, look it up. The east saw it, don’t care for it. So you enjoy it.
Well said Carin, Hungry is an example of the past of Europe, a place where we should never ever go back to.
A pathetic country aswell, they have nothing to be proud of, only Budapest. That is why every hungarian will use Budapest as a reference to explain where their shitty town is in Hungary.
YES, Germany will change, as Merkel said.
Other countries like for example HUNGARY… WILL NEVER CHANGE! They will be shit-holes for the rest of the existence of the planet. Places from which people only want to escape.
Or do you thing immigrants/refugees want to stay in Hungary? NO MAN! They are refugees, but they are not stupid! They want to get the hell out of that smelly place.
If Hungary with its xenophobic, hateful population is the last bastion of “Western Civilization” we are up the proverbial shit creek. But I’m positive your sewer of a country will hold up Petra Laszlo as your own “special” Gandhi. Is there any decent person left in Hungary today or all you all members of the Arrow Cross “civilization” under its new name “Jobbik”. Shame on Hungary and its horrific population.
Amen.
The way refugees are being treated in Hungary is shameful, food is being thrown at them and whoever catches a piece of bread eats, the rest does not.
Hungarians are intrinsically racists… very similar to Russians, if it was for me I would kick them out of the EU… they should go back to the USSR where they belong.
Agree
People who migrate with their families are intent on being productive in their new homes. What’s bad is that there will be a few terrorists mixed in with the masses can kill thousands. I don’t understand the mindset of Islamic terrorists. They are hypocrites.
worst of all they don’t appreciate your welcoming and want to enforce themselves into your system after they have settled see how they are manifesting their menace behavior before you even given them a bread.
Shame on you Hungary, your lack of humanity is sickening.
Shame not on Hungary, but shame on the USA. How silent they are on this mess that they created. Hungary should be applauded not condemned.
Yes! Hungary heartless and lack of humanity is totally sickening. “I think there is a tendency for people to get rigid and caught up in their beliefs of what is right and wrong, and they lose sight of humanity. Being human has to come first before right or wrong.”
Hungary is disgusting in its treatment of the downtrodden, happily dusting off its Nazi concentration camps for its current hated.
John, Klara, Frank, and what ever you call your self, I know “TROLL!”
Troll just because they think differently from you?
Is it a newspaper or a party paper?
If it’s a real newspaper it should be happy of different contributions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=player_embedded
Feel sorry and sad for the genuine refugees fleeing their country.
Migration and Refugees crises is an international global problem.
The US should also be made to take as much as possible these migrants for the reason it was the US under George Bush the umbrella of the UN along with allied Tony Blair wages an illegal war on Iraq under pretext that Saddam had WOMD which never was.
The US and its allied had wanted DICTATORIAL regime change in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya to its liking to Western way of Democratic method of Governments.
The US playing GOD with some its allied Western Countries has played a significant role in the Middle East Countries, consequent to which the IS ( Islamic States ) muscled up with a lot of support from other Muslim and Arab Countries.
The US and its Western allied Countries instigated for wars in the middle east to win lucrative oil contracts.
The mass migration and refugees problem has bounced back into their plate which they no longer digest nor can absorb more.
So who is for the blame and what is the remedy to get things right.
B Tank,
Your an American, I’m Canadian.
We both know the BS that these higher ups have brought. It’s a shame we can’t blog them for the troubles they have caused and walked away from. All I can say as when my dad found out that I broke a friends bike, I had to go a buy the parts and fix it. My dad was a refugee from Hungary and I still to this day respect him for punishing me. Does anyone in the US government feel as I do? I would like to see them fix their mistakes……
Most of the refugees are SYRIAN, the Syria crisis is caused by a Civil War that started 5 years ago that had nothing to do with the U.S. Assad attacks on his own people were militarily and politically backed by RUSSIA-and still are. RUSSIA and CHINA blocked every security council resolution designed to help the Syrians. And still are doing so, with more weapons being sent to Assad this week by Putin. This is definitely not a U.S. Caused crisis. Libya was caused by firstly the FRENCH, and later UK who ousted QUADAFFI, albeit reluctantly eventually with tacit support from the U.S. After a tear of resisting French calls for his removal. But even there, the actual military actions were French and Bristish, U.S. Only providing logistical support. But SYRIA is completely not related to any U.S. Action, if anything, we tried to stop the violence but could not move ASSADS allies, esp Putin, thus exacerbating an already tragic human loss of life.
good response Erin – I am both a Canadian and American. This is what happens when one speaks and doesnt act – for example – drawing a red line and not enforcing. The Euros have been riding in the US shadow for decades and its time to pull up their big boy pants and protect their own. This is becoming fiasco.
Keep up the good work! There are europeans who are behind you all the way <3
This stone-cold comment shows us why we have to be super-vigilante against intolerance and hate, sneaking in everywhere in our common space. The world is full of small, twisted, hateful minds, such as “Sussie” — Caveat Emptor!
Democracy is Sovereignty of the People, Human Rights, Equality, Due Process, Pluralism Tolerance, Pragmatism, Cooperation, and Compromise.
Very many in thousands are NOT refugees but are ‘ economic migrants ‘ from other parts of Africa as far as from East Africa, taking an advantage of current crises, simply trying to get into Europe.
These illegal migrants simply destroy these identities so as to make it difficult for host Government to identify and send them back home.
The illegal immigrants be thoroughly combed out and shipped back to where they belong.
yes but these poeple should be given only temporary asylem. and if europe knew what was good for them, they would go clean up syria and the middle east ( even tho this problem is a by product of the US invasion of Iraq)..
these people will be trouble forever. they are not christian. they are the enemy. Russia would never take them.
look at france and their muslim mess..same will happen in eastern europe. it is very sad but muslims are not a good fit in christian countries.
I would like to say I am British and I totally agree with your article. I don’t know what is going on with these European leaders but it appears to me that they are seriously lacking in brain cells. Giving aid and helping genuine refugees is something we ought to do, but to open your borders to everyone claiming asylum is just downright stupid. Even if they do sort out the real refugees from the economical migrants, how will they deport them? they are already in the country and they will just ‘disappear’ if they know they will be deported. Your PM is the only one showing common sense and the others are just brainless sheeps behind Merkel.
Should we apply Hungarian logic to all Eastern Europeans migrants?
For example, should we now deport all Eastern Europeans and Hungarians especially?
Should we stop them from migrating to Western Europe for economic reasons in case some of them are racists, paedophiles or rapists?
Should we take that chance?
Eastern Europeans are not even the same race, they have a different culture and different values. They do not integrate when they come. They just try to exploit our liberal policies.
The bigger issue for Hungary is Orban, he has failed miserably and the refugees are his latest excuse for this failed policies.
John, you appear to show all the traits you’re so happy to criticize in others. And you completely ignore that the majority of the comments here apparently do not come from Hungarians but people from other nations. How about taking your time and read them, and then come up with some argument why they’re wrong?
The Hungarian authorities have made several severe mistakes or even worse things like deliberatly tricking people. Having acknowledged this, may I ask you now to let us know how you would solve this situation?
There’s the Dublin regulation on the one hand. And there are those migrants whose only whish is to go to Germany or Sweden, on the other. If they get registered in Hungary, their dream is in danger. So they refuse to get registered. What would you, John, do in this situation?
Thank you for your time to answer this question.
I think John knows actually what he is saying and for the other part I fully understand what you are saying XIT, but Orban don’t want them because Muslims can’t integrate with Christians because of their view towards other’s religion so I think the best EU leaders can do is to welcome them provide for them no matter what the believe in
Xit,
You can’t claim a government ‘tricked’ you when you ‘illegally’ entered their country knowingly in the dark……
The problem is that East European THEY WERE ALWAYS IN EUROPE! They were fighting in all European wars, they died in war against Muslims, they died against komunism and against fascist…. They always built today’s Europe…. Next problem is that western people are too stupid to know it!
My friend, germany fought all the wars too, and also a big part of our country was communist after ’45.
What you telling about is not specificly east european thing. and what do you mean with “western people” ?
Fact is, your countries enjoyed globalisation later. Wall protcted you, but also it imprisoned you.
Stupid comment John!
Put this respectively ,why everything had to come this point?
The civil war going on 5 years by now in Syria .
Where’s the US UK Germany ?
Big democracy , children, babies ,woman dies first when help will finally show up!
Remember Hungarian Gov . Asked for help three weeks ago.
Nobody did anything .
I can tell you my wife and my story when we left in 1987 .
Wasn’t really bad but we was not welcomed in Austria .
We been locked up in refugee camp (quarantined)for 8 days.
Yes we had food bed to sleep,water take cold shower in winter time.
But we respected and any of those thousands refugees from Poland Hungary Czheslovakian would do anything similar ,protest they throw you back ,which happened.
John the “TROLL”, when will you crawl back into your hole….?
Please please understand, Hungary, the huge concern of us all across Europe, from Spain to the UK, France to Norway. about this invasion of our continent at the dictatorial behest, yet again, of the German EU dictator, Frau Merkel. We know that the media propaganda is feeding us all lies about Hungary and we need all of us Europeans to pull together or there will be indeed the clash of the civilisations. We cannot afford to be branded by the Leftist agenda as agitants when we are simply protesting and the peoples of each country are being totally ignored. The bleatings of the type that John expounds will get us all into trouble in the long run.
It is sad that some people choose to raise “civilizational”, cultural or religious differences and turn a blind eye to human suffering. I wonder what makes these people feel that the fact that we come from one continent necessarily makes us one culture that produced a higher civilization, and what more opposed to others. Naturally, it does not strike them that if such positions are the expression of this higher civilization, then it can’t really be that high after all. When not brave enough to express what is actually pure racism, they raise the argument of economic migration. I have been to Keleti and have no doubt that some of the people I saw there are indeed economic migrants. I know, however, that they are vastly outnumbered by the economic migrants from Poland, Romania or Hungary present just in my small western European town. I also know that the vast majority of those I have seen are fleeing conflict zones caused by guess who!
I understand that Hungary is bound by Dublin and Schengen. The fact of the matter is that you can be bound but still treat people with respect and preserve their dignity. The Hungarian government regrettably failed entirely on this count. First the questionnaire to the population on the dangers of mass migration to Hungarian values and the Hungarian economy even though they knew that no one had a desire to stay in Hungary. Then the undignified treatment in camps, stations and trains, and the resolve to a law enforcement strategy -Hungarian style- for what is first and foremost a humanitarian disaster. Worse than the failure is in my view its cause: pure, ordinary racism. The same racism which too often targets the Polish, Romanian and Hungarian migrant workers present in my small town. I’d prefer not to use the N word, but it does seem that every one needs his own little nigger to pump up his self-esteem.
That’s right,
The illegal migrants. should be transported from one border directly to the next and then the onus is one the next ‘Shenghen’ country, Austria, I like it. Well when they say they have no ‘documents’. Hungary is in the clear and Austria is the BAD member. Let’s continue this till we get to ANGELA’s world where under her dream, Germany will change and also accept 500,000 people per year for the next “how many”???? She should STOP, believing that she is speaking for ‘EUROPE’, at least without INFORMING them first. BTW, who appointed her or her lacky to speak for Europe in the first place as to what’s going to happen, blah, blah…..????
Keep on People! You are Thermopiles of our times. We have been fighting off these savege hordes for a thousand of years and we will have to do it once more! Give the free Europe some more time and we will all wake up! Free world is behind your backs.
Keep on!
We got a few Christians in there, we have to be fair with all religions. But when the crash borders, enter illegally and demand human rights, assisted travel to other borders, throw food offerings(fruit) in your face as a law officer. What more are you expecting, and this is not true of the ‘Real refugees’, but of the scum their packed with. This is showing in Greece where the Afgans and fighting with the Syrians. WTF!!!
Wake up arcenciel! It is not about putting civilisation beyond helping in a humanitarian way. But your woolly-headed concern is unwittingly allowing the advancement of a long planned agenda, which will ultimately be to your detriment and to the detriment of all peoples, particularly the Europeans. Even if there were no clash of the Christian and Islamic civilisations, this programme of destabiliastion in the west will help those powermongers to procure control as intended. I for one do not wish to see the reduction of living standards, overcrowding, pressure on jobs and living spaces, and the capitulation to an intolerant, archaic, alien indoctrination which despises western mores, just because some people thought they had a greater conscience than others. We all know what the demands will be made upon us by these people…they are already doing it as they cross miles of safe territory just to get t economically strong Germany.
Well, Orban said it very clearly – Hungary doesn`t want Muslim Immigrants as they feel it should stay an solely Christian Country. Although beeing an Atheist i probably know much more about what the Christian Religion tries to teach than this self-declared bigots like Orban and co: Humanity
Hungary tries to make the life of the Refugees as miserable as possible. For Example 6 Plastic Toilets for 3000 Refugees at the Keleti Trainstation, no help whatsoever from the government for this refugees, the UNHCR was declined Access to them by hungarian Authorities, Hungarian People attacking them.
Hungary transported around 8000 to the Austrian border with buses BUT not straight at the border as the Austrians asked them to – no the buses left them around 8 km before the border that they had to walk in pouring rain the last Kilometers.
There is a clear message to this poor People – F*** Off. Having helped out at the Vienna Trainstation as an Volunteer (as hundreds of other Austrians and Germans) by far the majority of this Refugees Comes from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan – so clearly Refugees of War.
Shame on you Hungary.
It is absolutely disgusting what Hungary is doing to refugees. These bastards must have forgotten that North America opened its doors to thousands of Hungarian refugees
Yes, it is absolutely disgusting treatment, heartlessness lack of humanity to refugees. “There is a tendency for people to get rigid and caught up in their beliefs of what is right and wrong, and they lose sighes! Being human has to come first before right or wrong.” My heart just aches.
Too many people hear are watching American news like CNN. Shame on you for not see what really happening and getting all sides of the news. Not shame on you, stupid you… duh!
I have been watching the headlines from the US and it is really sad that Hungary is getting a bad wrap here. It is not your problem that suddenly all these people show up and I agree that you should be careful with people who have no documentation, especially in a time of terrorists that come out of nowhere. Your country is the size of Indiana, which is pretty darn tiny. To expect you to suddenly be the leader of the world’s problems is ridiculous. Everyone wants to be politically correct and the photos that are being published worldwide get people to focus on the emotional aspect rather than the practical. I feel bad for these people but they aren’t the first group of folks to immigrate because of a war. Now Germany is acting like they are the lifesavers and suddenly Christians have decided they are going to take in all the people who need “saving.” I just hope the US isn’t going to suddenly decide we need to feel sorry too. I have had enough of these Middle Eastern countries extremist mindsets and then we are infiltrated with people who then suddenly become radical thinkers. This is not the same as the WWII and 56 immigration. This is different, there is a bigger picture here but people are only focusing on photos not long term. I wish you the best over there.
Well – what would you do with them ? The People are there as a matter of fact and according to my upbringing (as an Atheist) you have to treat them as what they are – human beeings and not like the scum of the earth as the Hungarians are doing it right now. I guess you have never been to Syria before ? If they would be Extremists why aren`t they fighting right now on IS-side. I tell you – because they are fleeing of them. The vast majority of IS-Fighters come from countries like Saudia Arabia, Chechnya, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco and many European Countries and not Syria itself.
Have you ever asked yourself who was directly responsible for the Situation in Afghanistan and Iraq ? Any bells ringing ?
Hungary is doing the right thing in securing its border with Serbia. Every country in the world has a right to secure its borders from invaders. What is being called the migrant crisis in Europe is actually an invasion by people from many different countries and backgrounds. No one actually knows who these people are while they travel freely across Europe. No doubt some of them wish to do harm to European countries. Orban is 100% correct in wanting to keep Europe safe and strong. Angela Merkel has made a terrible mistake in throwing the doors of Germany wide open. It’s obvious German business is hoping to acquire a cheap labor force. She has dragged Austria into this mess. Both of these countries will suffer the terrible consequences which are too many to list here. The migrants have to be stopped where they set foot in Europe. They should be processed there and not in the interior of Europe. Better yet, Turkey and Libya should not allow these people to leave their countries by sea. Both Greece and Italy should get all the help they need to establish processing centers. Those who don’t qualify as refugees should be promptly deported. Hungarians, congratulations on taking the correct stand on the issue.
Well Done Hungary, we should do nothing but heap praise on this country and its people, they are effectively the only EU country trying to do something, and they get no support from the EU. As the article states damned if you do and damned if you dont.
Lets be clear – and I know this is going to annoy the liberal left wing loonies but never mind- NONE of these migrants are refugees. Some may have been when they entered Turkey from Syria. At that point they are REQUIRED by international law to claim asylum, as its the first safe country…not to decide to have little walk across a thousand odd mile with pregnant women and children just because they give you more money in Germany….and then whine that they dont get what they want and oh no some migrants die…..Get to Turkey- claim asylum – if you are genuine and in need then you will be accepted….strange how many of these fit – fighting age young men dont like their photos taken, or fingerprints taken….b
Steve,
Very good last point, imagine if Hungarian soldier were as scared to leave battle back when. Now who’s running from battle?
Merkel and, it seems, wide portions of the German population have lost their minds.
1. At a fraction of the cost the refugees could be kept in camps in Turkey and other neighbouring countries, with proper food, medicine, living in a Moslem environment and near their home countries, friends, families and ready to go back.
2 Even Middle Eastern Christians can not integrate in Germany because the facts, the values, the habits of most. Europeans, German or not, are no longer practising Christians and religion has been pushed away from. government and most social life.
3 The culture shock will break many refugee families because the habits, the values of Germans are light years away from the Middle East; alcohol, pork, sexual freedom for girls, education, etc. Iteis sheer lunacy to bring the refugees to Germany.
4 The further the refugees are from their home countries the better for the corrupt and incompetent ruling clases of those societies because those who leave for one or another reason are one less enemy of the rulers at home,
5 European Jews must bedismayed; already there are plenty of Moslem antisemites in Europe, a number of them have already murdered Jews. More Moslems means more violent antisemites.
I am sure Merkel’s intentions are not to endanger Jews yet that is the effect of her policies. If a number of Jews were already leaving Europe because of the dangers, even more will do so now.
Are number of leftist Jews are to blame for the politically stupid policies of multiculturalism. They thought that way European antisemitism is less likely; they did not anticipate Moslems are a bigger danger because many are already antisemites and furthermore, their inability-unwillingness to integrate will deteriorate social life in Europe. As that happens European nationalism is likely to rise.
The Jews are already beingsattacked because, again, they are the canary in the mine.
6. If Germany this year will admit 800 000 migrants, the UK, should admit half a million each oreso, France,e Italy, Portugal-Spain and perhaps another million or so the rest of the EU countries. Total for 2015 would be some 4 million. Next year no doubt many more will comeeas the only barrier is to physically get to Europe, no need to apply to inmigrate, wait years or even accept that neves will be possible.
If Syrian and othes Midle East refugees are streaming in there are many other lands at war and that persecute others.
Soon the flood of migrants will swell to 8 million, 16 million and so on in coming years. Sheer lunacy.
Europe will collapse because it does not have the resources to support so many people and those people do not have the attrtudes or skill to find jobs, not to create the jobs. How can they?
Would you expect native Germans from marginal neighborhoods to turn overnight into employable and entrepreneurial? Absurd. The migrants, by and largeedo not have the attitudes and skills either. They will end up in marginal neighbourhoods too, as is happening in any of the major cities of France, Sweden, etc.
Keep in mind these inmigrant do not undergo any screening process like it happens to inmigrant to Australia, New Zealand, Canada (I do not include the US because they also have several million illegals.
Illegals can include normal people, social misfits, criminals, terrorists, mentally ill and on and on.
Integration is very difficult, to make it possible inmigrants must come at carfully controlled rates and screened.
Heck, even Israel with just 140 000 Ethiopian Jews is having enormous problems integrating them, in spite of sharing religious and some cultural values. Iteis absurd, bordering dumb arrogance, for Germans to believe Moslems can be integrated in the numbers and rates they are arriving.
7. The long term solution requires for the UN, even NATO, to militarily invade those failed societies and place them under UN administration for a decade or two, using this time to prepare new ruling clases with the attitude and skills necessary to put in place the policies and laws that generate prosperity and the negotiatinc skills to get along with others.
Where the millions of refugees come from there are many more millions to overwhelm European countries. Given the fact they have larger families Europe, Germany first of all, must come to its senses.
It seems Courchill was right: “the German leaders are incapable of small mistakes” Will the German people consent, again, to being badly misled?
I am truly shocked by many of the comments here, i guess according to the writing many americans and i guess rightwings with Christian beliefs. I guess you pray for god that this People drown in the mediterrenean.
Having volunteered at the Vienna trainstation i can tell you this People went through hell, beeing afraid of just seeing a policeman because they were used especially in Hungary to be beaten, abused and robbed by the hungarian Police. We really had to calm them down that they are now on a safe Terrain. Children with eyeinjuries from stungrenades and so on.
Dieter Zetsche – CEO of Daimler – made a good decision today to look for labour in refugeecamps as there are many higly educated People coming. I met lawyers, doctors, engineers – they will be an enrichment to our societies.
To all you haters: Have you ever sought who brought us so many refugees. I just remember a few months ago Harvard students beeing asked who is a bigger threat to worldpeace, ISIS or the US: Majority answered with US and they are right.
Chris,
Congratulations, Your a certified IDIOT! Don’t worry about your offspring, they’ve sprung in many directions….
- Turkey and Lebanon (with the latter fitting easily ten times over in Idaho) are already home to more than a million Syrian refugees each. Jordan to half a million. Contrast that with Hungary approving less than 5% of asylum requests or all of the Visegrad countries hosting collectively a couple of hundred at most.
– Germans should be rightly proud. Looks like they are the only ones to have confronted their past and dealt with their demons. The rest is still stuck in the 1930s, fashism never too far away. Most of them living off their benefactor -Germany- and insulting it in the same breath. Very civilized indeed!
– for the poster watching this from the US, may be you could check who caused this mess in the first place?
– a couple of months back, Austrian right wingers demonstrated near the Hungarian border to denounce the “invasion by Hungarians taking jobs away from native Austrians”. This whole economic migrants argument coming from the central and eastern european countries reminds me of a quipp by the late French stand up comedian Coluche about “these fucking turks coming to eat the bread of our Arabs”.
Would be better if Europe stand together instead of blaming each other?
Dublin III dont work. Italy / Greece would collapse. So someone need to take some refugees from them.
We need to share refugees and share money and troops for Boarder Patrol.
The lack of knowledge and plain stupidity that is shown in these comments is shocking.
You would think that in the 21st century people don’t believe any politician any more on his word, but here are plenty who stop thinking because the great leader of the nation has spoken. First he spends billions on a propaganda campaign to convince people that the immigrants are here to stay and to take the jobs from the Hungarians. What a great vision! 2 Months later this same great leader says this is a German problem, because they don’t want to stay in Hungary….but if they don’t want to stay, then what is the problem of Hungary exactly?
Of course the shame on Hungary is not that they don’t want to have the immigrants- who come nearly all from Syria and northern-Irak where there is a war going against the monsters of IS by the way- the real shame is the treatment. It’s seriously shocking to see so much hatred in these posts.
They have taken 12000 or more asylum seekers that were ‘willing’ to register, the rest were very difficult understandably with the fact that nobody spoke Hungarian, German, English and the country was overwhelmed. Nobody can expect any country to handle a sudden influx. And who caused the influx, non-other that chancellor Merkel who is still pressing on for her own reasons. Good luck to her….
Shame on Hungary and on people who support the position against those in so desperate situation! It’s unbelievable to see such lack of compassion for hopeless people. It seams that feelings like puritanism of race is already praised by some Hungarians.
Puritanism of race seems to come from you German, or OOOPs, im mean Slavics/Germans, check the DNA posts online available at a website near you….
As an English observer I think you did the right thing ……
But that woman Merkel is intent on your country taking at least 60,000 migrants as you have the room …
As a wise English observer you are correct, except on the numbers. Today Mrs. Merkel announce without agreement from ALL the EU members that Germany could take 500,000 asylum seekers a year for how many years?????
Depositing the rest back to Hungary the ‘BAD’ country , German style, and then what. ALLA AKBAR!!
Now if I were Hungarian I would ask my government to restrict the number zero, because when all is said and done it was that stupid Merkel woman that opened the fllod gates by saying Germany would take anyone that got there.
So pass them along and let her deal with the problem alone.. It is time the EU got control back to the members and not be dictated to by Germany
HUNGARY ….. Stand up to Germany
Now if I were Hungarian I would ask my government to restrict the number zero, because when all is said and done it was that stupid Merkel woman that opened the fllod gates by saying Germany would take anyone that got there.
So pass them along and let her deal with the problem alone.. It is time the EU got control back to the members and not be dictated to by Germany
@Baggpuss4120,
Very well said, and yes Hungary will change” the playing field” on Sept 15/2015 on wards.
How fast the Hungarians forget what was done for them in 1956 because of the USSR occupation of their country. Over 200,000 Hungarians fled their country, and the entire world came to their help. A great effort was made to place them and their families in many countries, especially in the US, Europe and Latin America, where they were provided with homes, food, education, jobs and gave them a life that they would have never had under the Communist regime. That is why is hard to understand why the Hungarians are denying help to the refugees from Syria, especially because all they want is to go across Hungary in their long and painful trek to Northern Europe. Remember the past and be kind and helpful to the people that are now going through a situation similar to yours in 1956. Ungrateful people!
It is very deceiving to see how fast the Hungarians forget what was done for them in 1956 because of the USSR occupation of their country. Over 200,000 Hungarians fled their country, and the entire world came to their help. A great effort was made to place them and their families in many countries, especially in the US, Europe and Latin America, where they were provided with homes, food, education, jobs and gave them a life that they would have never had under the Communist regime. That is why is hard to understand why the Hungarians are denying help to the refugees from Syria, especially because all they want is to go across Hungary in their long and painful trek to Northern Europe. Remember the past and be kind and helpful to the people that are now going through a situation similar to yours in 1956. Ungrateful people!
Robert,
LOL! Still won’t quit eh. You have it wrong on all accounts, but you still find a nation hard to understand. Seek medical advice as I’m sure you have Brezhnev disease, if not cured. It will definitely seriously injure you in any bar in Europe, so I would stay well away from bars or alcohol. Definitely stay out of Germany and go back to maybe Romania were you’ll be safe for a short time till Putin hunts you down.
Sleep easy
Robert made a factual point and this is your reply?
I was one of those ungratefull people in 1956…I was only 5 years old and didn’t know I was ungratefull.We registered as refugees,and were very gratefull for what followed.We were not economic migrants..the Russian army had just destroyed our home and lives with heavy artilary.We were not heading for a country with a wiz-bang social security system like this current mob are…we were simply glad to be out of the war zone.
An interested observer may wonder who is left to fight for Syria…I see young,unaccompanied men abandoning their homes…someone else can fight their fight.
We are witnessing the Islamification of Christian Europe under the Trojan horse of Refugees. This is MOHACS 2015.
Talpra Magyar Hiv a Haza!
The Muslims should assimilate to Christian Europe. If not, Europes empty basilicas will become Mosques, all to their Shame.
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Julius Streicher would have approved such nonsense.
Perhaps I am missing the finer nuances that led to this editorial ~ one of the weakest and lamest editorials I have ever read, including some I wrote that I wish I could take back myself!
When there is a mass exodus that rivals Biblical exoduses, I’m sorry, but the lives of humans matter more than the “letter of the law.” The Budapest Times gets a total fail on this one. Unbelievable. The inhumanity of it all.
My wife and I will take a family. How do we do it is the question. We’re in America.
Hungary is the one country acting to uphold the law and getting kicked for their trouble.Those nasty Hungarians..they are a convenient scapegoat for the wealthy but stupid French and Germans.Instead of shooting the messenger,they should demand the U.S,Israel and their bastard child Isis stop destabilizing the middle east.NOW.
Hungary has to be the most horrible country in the world. Even refugees fleeing war don’t want to stay in your putrid excuse of a country. Everything about you people is disgusting. Let the refugees pass through you retarded inbreds
If you have even checked the news, more people are moving on from Austria than the Hungarians are passing to them. Meaning even the inflows from Italy to Slovenia to Austria are being passed along. Nobody wants to stay in Austria either, a western country for decades….
So the only thing i see that are ‘retarded inbreds’ are you and wherever you came from
Hungary is not terrible place at all. I am a ROMANIAN (not of Hungarian origin) and I testify to this fact. I own my career to my training in Hungary and I will be for ever grateful for it. Hungary is just a very small country dealing with a huge crisis. They do what they can. Stop drinking the sugary kool aid and try to evaluate the situation logically.
HI All, I am Italian and we already seen a lot of time the events of the immingrants in our country. I am very sad for what happen in Hungary(I lived there for some months and I can confirm that Hungarians are a very good people, and if they have law and rule, they respect it!).
This is not a questions of “humanity”, the main problem is that all that is appaneing now is a part of big project: reduce the cost of the work in europe.
How can germany can pay a 2500€ salary for a man that work in factory??? They need people with less salary, they need to pull down all the workers rights. So….welcome refugee, welcome poor people…. and say goodbye to your salary.
In my country happen the same….take care!
The mainstream media is not showing you the truth . DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHIN YOU SEE AND HEAR FROM THEM. Use your brain and do some research.the social media can help you see the truth. Majority of these illegal migrants are men of military age.but what the mainstream media shows u are pictures of children, women and the elderly.didnt u notice?now, aside from the fact that thse are men, they are muslims. Muslims are follower of the religion called islam. The problem is, Islam is not solely confined to a belief system. It is a total system of life. It covers the social, political and judicial aspects which deprives people of their freedom. It is actually close to a totalitarian system.thus, the sharia law. A man whose brain is half dead will never understand the danger europe is facing. If you havent been to a muslim country and just rely on the mainstream media, u r screwed. Surely u r one of the people defending these invaders.i have lived in a muslim country.trust me, u will thank God for the kind of life u hv in europe.protect ur country.secure ur border.it is totally ok to be human and be merciful but know who ur enemies are.these people are invaders.refugees should be happy in the first safe place they enter and grateful for the food offered to them.these people are the exct opposite of what a genuine refugee is.the genuine refugees are left in the refugee camps n lebanon,iraq,turkey. Some are left fighting for their very existence in war torn iraq…the yazidis, the kurds, the druze and the Christians.help them.these are the people that need help.muslims will nver assimilate.nver.this will later result in chaos for surely they will try to impose their law on u and would probbly demand that sharia law be implemented.look at the muslims in london and the sharia courts existing.dont u guys know that they are pushing for sharia law to be implemented? Wake up bfore it’s too late.
Thank you Viktor Orban – it seems that you are only one real leader in Europe!! All the best to you and to your wonderful nation!
I salute Hungary’s and Mr. Orban’ s courage and resolve!
Good work Hungarian people. Do not let them to UE. Greetings from Poland
https://peter5427.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/a-thousand-years-nothing-changed/
1. Muslim hordes are invading Europe
2. Hungary is trying to hold them back
3. Europe shows its gratitude by spewing hate
The vitriol in the comments on this article is just astounding, but it is typical western bigotry against eastern Europeans in general and Hungary in particular.
Hungary try to hold muslim horde,s ok what about Huns “the first group of Turkic, as opposed to Iranian, nomads to have intruded into Europe”, or name Hungary, current literature favors the hypothesis that it comes from the name of the Turkic tribe Onogur. When we look into the past Hungarians have more in common with the Turkish and Asia than with Europe, when someone pulls history to justify their inhuman actions it’s very scary for normal people.