After several hundred migrants set off by foot on Friday afternoon from Budapest’s Keleti station westward with the intention of going to Germany, the Hungarian, Austrian and German governments finally gave in. While the former provided some 100 buses for transportation, the latter two announced the temporary
opening of the border and their willingness to accept Syrian refugees.
The migrants progressed along Rákóczi út on the pavement and the edge of the road in the direction of Erzsébet Bridge with several children being carried on their fathers’ shoulders. The group – which grew to about 1,000 to 1,200 by late afternoon – continued its way toward the M1 highway, the main road toward Austria.
The refugees were walking westward on the M1 motorway, and 300 others along a main railway line to Vienna, which had been closed for safety reasons.
By the evening a session of the government’s operative staff was called and a decision was reached to provide buses to carry migrants from Keleti and others who had already set off to Hegyeshalom border station.
Minister in Charge of the Prime Minister’s Office János Lázár declared that the transportation to the border did not mean migrants could “automatically” leave the country. The government was awaiting Austria’s position on preconditions for crossing into that country, he said.
A few hours later Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann announced that, because of the current emergency situation, Austria and Germany had agreed to admit the refugees. The first bus arrived at Hegyeshalom at 2.30am, with the migrants getting off and walking across the border.
EU quotas not ideal but better than nothing
Opposition party LMP said on Saturday that it is hard to imagine a better alterative in the current migration crisis than to introduce a mandatory quota system. MEP Tamás Meszerics said it is certain that the quota proposal “is not ideal in its current form, since it is an improvised solution”. At the same time, Hungary would have done better out of a quota system compared with the current situation, in which there are thousands of migrants stuck in Budapest, he said.
In the meantime, the sunken plaza in front of Keleti railway station, where migrants barred from taking trains west had waited for several days, almost emptied. By 5am, however, the underpass became once again filled by refugees eager to know whether further buses would be available to travel to Austria.
The following day government spokesman Zoltán Kovács announced that “no further buses are planned to take illegal migrants to the Austrian border… It was a one-off decision. No further migrants will be taken to the border from either the Keleti station or the reception camps.” The spokesman stressed the need to find a European solution to the migration crisis and expressed hope that there would be some progress in this direction in the days to come.
While no additional bus convoys were provided, regular railway traffic resumed by the end of the week and migrants were allowed to board westbound trains in small groups.
Police use tear gas, two migrants detained
Police used tear gas against a group of migrants who refused to go to a collection point after entering Hungary, and two people were detained near Röszke in southern Hungary late on Tuesday, a local MTI correspondent reported. The group of around 150 migrants set off towards Highway 5 after entering Hungary from Serbia. Police used tear gas to prevent the migrants from joining another group who had left the collection point earlier in the evening. Around 50 migrants, mostly families, eventually accepted the police’s request and boarded buses that took them to the collection point at Röszke. Police had used interpreters to convince people they need to register after arriving in Hungary. Many in the crowd were chanting “No camp” and “Budapest, Budapest”.
On Sunday more than 130 cars arrived from Vienna to pick up refugees and take them to Austria. After crossing the border, the convoy split up with cars heading to Hegyeshalom, Győr in northwest Hungary and Budapest. Austrian news agency APA reported that the volunteers made a stop in Nickelsdorf (Miklóshalma) to protest against the Dublin rules. The convoy was backed up by Austrian police until it reached the Hungarian border.
The group’s organiser told Hungarian state news agency MTI that many of the volunteers had driven to Hungary on their own before to help refugees get to Austria, adding that the reason they were now doing it as a group was because it was “safer”. In response to a statement by Austria’s Interior Ministry saying that anyone taking part in the operation was punishable, the organiser said the volunteers were risking “ridiculously less” than the migrants. The police should rather be punishing those who don’t take on migrants, the organiser said.
A spokesperson for the Austrian police noted that transporting migrants across the border counts as human smuggling in Hungary and is punishable by jail, while in Austria it is an offence punishable by a fine of up to 5,000 euros.
On Monday – addressing the start of a two-day meeting of Hungary’s foreign mission leaders –, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said that people who had already made it to Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria are already safe, so they are not running for safety. They have actually “set their eyes on life in Germany”, he added.
Hungary does not exclude the possibility of “a sensible and fair” discussion of the European Union quota system but “we have a problem with the timing”, he said. Orbán said the quota system only set out to address the consequences of migration instead of dealing with its causes. All international participants were prepared for the current situation, except for Europe. He added that Australia, the United States, Israel and the Gulf states have all refused to take in the migrants.
Take in 15,000 refugees by 2016: Együtt
The opposition Együtt party demands that Hungary take in 10,000 refugees this year and 5,000 next year, on a voluntary and long-term basis. Viktor Szigetvári, the party’s leader, said on Monday that while Hungary is a homogeneous country, it needs new workforce to make its pension and welfare systems sustainable. It was also Hungary’s moral duty to take in migrants. At the moment all “well-intentioned Hungarians feel shame at last week’s actions by Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and the Fidesz government”, he said.
Orbán dismissed the idea that anyone had the right to tell Hungary to significantly change its cultural and ethnic composition. In connection with this the prime minister said Hungary “historically” had a minority of a “few hundred thousand” Roma, yet it was not asking other states to also live together with a significant Roma minority. The latter statement prompted objections from opposition parties as well as the Hungarian Roma community.
Hungary’s position was not “anti-Islam” and it does not want the issue of migration to cause a deterioration in relations with states belonging to the Islamic civilisation, he said.
On the subject of Hungarian legislation passed last week, which comes into force from mid-September, Orbán said it is not reasonable to think that any perceivable improvements would come about already on September 16, but the government does expect results step-by-step. Hopefully one day Hungary’s borders will be hermetically sealed, while designated border crossing points will be available for entry, he added.
169,337 illegal migrants, 955 people smugglers caught this year
So far this year police have picked up 169,337 illegal migrants and caught 955 people smugglers, while the immigration office has registered 157,746 migrants, according to official briefings on Tuesday. The immigration office is working round the clock at ten points nationwide to process asylum applications, Attila Kiss, the office’s deputy head, said.
For goodness sake, how did a place a physically beautiful as Hungary, with one of the best capital cities in all of Europe allow its stupid government to turn Hungary into the shame of Europe?
Germany has invited the refugees, and in particular those from Syria to take refuge there. Not Greece, Macedonia, Serbia or Hungary. Not even Austria. Just Germany. Since they are not airlifting the refugees from Greece (they should), just open your borders and let the nomads through. Charge them 40 euros each or something at the border, a temporary visa for passage, up to, say, 3 days. It’s ridiculous to try to detain them in places worse than animals live in throughout the rest of Europe. Even poor countries like Romania and Bulgaria have better facilities.
There are 2 million Hungarians living outside of Hungary within Europe. You are undermining their security. Companies here are putting aside their applications for work, not even interviewing them because they can’t gaurantee their personal safety.
Why do you give a toss about the refugees? It’s not you offering them sanctuary; it’s Germany. Macedonia and Serbia are smart, especially Macedonia, one of the poorest places in Europe after Albania. Once they join the EU, they will be remembered, along with the Greeks, as people who saved the refugees. Serbia will have removed its stain over Kosovo with just this one action, saying we remember war, we won’t persecute them.
Hungary? Your reputation will be one of a xenophobic fascist state. You will be likened to the Nazis for years. Holding people in cages. Throwing food at them. Food containing pork sausages. Even one of the members of your media kicking and tripping children as they tried to pass her. And people will treat your citizens in the rest of Europe like crap.
For goodness sake, let them pass.
these people are economic tourists.they want germany because of their welfare system. hungary has enough problems with its own entitlements .who can afford these people ? why dont they stay in a Muslim country like turkey?
What a ridiculous absurd thing to say. 2m refugees are in Turkey and it will take until 2025 to register just the ones that are there now. People fleeing war, many of these professional need a future for their families and not to be stuck in a refugee tent for the next 50 years like the Palestinians.
You and your kind shame Europe.
The wealthy Gulf states need to any up – Saudi, Qatar, Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait
Very well put.
Wake up. Hungary was told to process and hold migrants by the imperial EU leader, Germany. Hungary tried but found it impossible, especially with Germany undermining the Dublin rule that requires the first country reached by refugees to process them. Open your home to the first group of “refugees” that show up. Odds are they will be bearded young arrogant men with iPhones and chanting Islamic slogans–not some kid holding a teddy bear.
Very well said. Media likes to show crying children and mothers, but they represent a very very small % of those demanding asylum. Same happens here in USA.
It is resisting this invasion precisely to sustain its physical beauty and continue to have one of the best capital cities in all of Europe. Do you honestly believe that these invaders, who have no intentions of assimilating or are capable of contributing to the advancement of the society, care about the physical beauty and culture of Europe?
Really very difficult problem to address. My feelings go with Europe . It is bound to alter cultural thread of Europe region for sure . When 2+ cultures meet traction is bound to happen . On the other side heart say’s migrant need safe home ?
I know this is the internet and the MSM espicially use it to hide the truth. Who said photos never lie have not watched PBS, BBC or liberal News coverage. To find out why PM Orban is taking on the immigration issue. Please read the Wikipedia listed below. If Hungary follows the rules, they will have to take in all of the refugees that Germany refuses and like he said, they do not have the money or jobs to handle that large of an influx of people. BUT let the MSM give out the WHOLE truth about the facts. Does not happen anymore. It takes each person to investigate on their own to REALLY learn what is going on. Ask why the 5 riches Muslim Nations in the area are refusing to take in ANY immigrants.
** Advice to Hungary, EU countries from US citizen**
There’s a difference between ‘economic’ migrants and refugees fleeing certain death at hands of groups like ISIS.
EU countries need only look to USA as example. USA gov continues to offer asylum, $$$, healthcare, job training, and much more to virtually anyone crossing into USA. These guarantees have created massive ongoing exodus into USA (50k+ ‘ children’ this summer, most aged 15yrs old+). Every 2 MINUTES AN ANCHOR BABY IS BORN IN USA THIS YEAR. The RESULTS of unfettered access to USA also includes: HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT, MASSIVE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS, LOWER WAGES, LOWER PERFORMANCE IN SCHOOLS, and more.
True refugees are looking for safety. Economic migrants are looking to make more money.
This Euro crisis is misrepresented by media around the world. The wealthy are insulated from negative effects while average citizens shoulder the burden of the results listed above.
**Hungary, protect your citizens’ best interests. Don’t give in to pressure from those who will not and do not shoulder the burden! Stay strong!**
Debbie get a grip!
I am very sad with our earth. Fighting, Oil, Money, to do nothing just why?
I totally agree , very sad situation Greed is the root-cause for all ailments . Everybody forgets there are only 90 years to live.
What about the people, the women and children, see my link further below…
The CULT of Islam has NO PLACE in the world, and Europe is going to suffer the consequences of letting these Muslims invade their countries. Just look at Paris, Germany, and other place that have large Muslim populations; they’re destroying the communities they’ve invaded, ruining the quality of life for the native-born citizens, and are mooching off the new host countries by ransacking every taxpayer-funded resources they can sink their grubby meat-hooks into.
Time is running out for Europe; more are headed their way, and soon the entire Middle East and Africa will be knocking down your borders and setting up another Caliphate.
When will this utter insanity end? At what point are the political leaders in Europe going to wake up to the warnings and wishes of their tax-paying citizens and admit that this invasion is completely out of hand? Every last one of these so-called migrants is breaking the law. The genuine refugees should have asked for asylum in the first safe country they entered. Economic migrants should have gone through the recognized channels available for legal emigration. Not one of these hordes of invaders has done this. Their arrogant, aggressive sense of entitlement is breath-taking – even at this point they are complaining about the conditions and the lack of adequate reception centres. What on earth do they expect when they arrive in poverty-stricken European countries, uninvited and unannounced. If this is their attitude now, what are they going to be like when they ‘set up shop’ in a host country? Many have no education, no marketable skills and no language skills. How are they going to support themselves and their large families in Europe without years of welfare handouts? Their cultures and traditions are totally incompatible with the Western way of life and it will be just a matter of time before they start demanding that their host country change its ways to accommodate their social and religious practices – like so many of the existing migrants already do in Sweden and the UK. When are European leaders going to say ‘enough is enough’, and demand that Muslim countries start taking in more of these invaders? It had better be soon as the alternatives are civil war, or the demographic and cultural suicide of Europe.
Admitting Muslim refugees is a serious mistake. Most Europeans are blissfully ignorant of the gulf between our culture and the fundamentalist Islamic culture from which these refugees flee. They are fleeing from a medieval culture of violence and intolerance, and they tend to take that culture with them wherever they go. These are not Russian Jews or Irish fleeing the potato famine.
Consider what has happened to the ~100,000 Muslim Somali refugees to the US since the 1990’s. Most have not assimilated or learned English, but have concentrated in enclaves of poverty, discontent and unemployment such as “Little Mogadishu” in Minnesota, where there have been numerous convictions for various levels of collaboration with Islamist terror groups.
Islam is not “just another religion,” to be assimilated into the great American melting pot. It is a medieval culture and system of law that is utterly incompatible with Western ideals of democracy, freedom and tolerance. Read the Koran and Hadith, and look at history and recent world events, and you will understand this. We should not be admitting thousands of Muslims (refugees or not) into the US.
How well I remember 1956 and millions of Hungarians fled from the Russian invasion. Many came to Montreal and got jobs, fed their families and were granted entry. How can you forget the compassion that strangers gave you? Shame on you! You are just ungrateful, arrogant elitists. Hey Vladimir, go clean up that mess and be more thorough this time!
BS! If you cave in, you are participating at the European genocide through the Islam! Don’t kid yourself into believing that those “refugees” are poor, war scared human beings!!! This is not national socialism, but an outcry to preserve the christian, european identity!
Bravo be aware
I guess we citizens of the earth should get rid of all national boundaries and finally recognize that the earth as a whole is our home. The arab nations, too, should allow free immigration of European nationals into their countries with work permits and ability to set up businesses. Freedom to immigrants to live where we wish should be bilateral, not unilateral. Otherwise, the Europeans are being kind of unfair reaching out to nations and regions that do not reach out to their nationals as well.
Are you nuts? Go to an Arab nation and mingle? More like get your head cut off as soon as you step off the bus.
Ha! Caught you again you ugly troll!
To the rest Byjorn has been on many sites as Donna, and Robert, LFAO!!!!
@Paul, check out this link and see what Prime Minister Orban was hinting at….
Germany is in for a real problem from here on in over the next few years and on, hope the brothers can handle it…..
Europe and America have enough Moslems, let the other Moslem countries take them.
I pity the generous kind compassionate people of Hungary suffering under the cold neo-nazi regime that would brutalize desperate families only trying to pass through their country. It sickens me to see the images of the childrn being starved and beaten by faceless soldiers hiding behind masks. Now we have a wall and camps that look like stock yards. What’s next? Gas chambers and ovens? This is disgusting and unacceptable in 21st century Europe.
Changing the culture of Hungary.
This Hungarian gov’t theme I snickered at, because since the Magyars immigrated into the Hungarian Basin the culture has changed many times. The last three as when it was part of the Hapsburg’s Austro-Hungarian Empire, and then joining the Nazis in the 1930s and then part of the Communist “culture” during the Cold War.
Islam, in Christian writings, is strict 1st and 2nd Commandment. So why does Orban rail against the Laws carried by Moses ? ? ?
I see that your history book has been rewritten so many times by your imams and yet it probably only has three pages left in it to date. Not surprising as your bunch continue to destroy and burn down any record of civilizations thing that you can just erase the past. Why is that in your own Islam beliefs, that you bunch have so many different sects and each are taught and twisted to their own liking by their Imams. The only way you bunch seem to get to get your point across is by killing the opponent and saying your doing this in the name of either your profet Mohammed or God. Don’t preach to the rest of us about our commandments #1 & #2 when your bunch break commandments, #5, #6, #7, #9, & #10 on top of #1 & #2. Your just another poorly educated and twisted cult member.
i am from pakistan . by reading all news . i am feeling that eu is like banana state . you donot need to go to eu embassies to get visa and follow all procedures . just pack your bag and move on . isnt it sound funny
yes we should help immigrants but only according to law otherwise its not fair or change the law .
Hello. I want to tell that 80% people in Poland are against immigrants in UE. Yesterday in many towns in Poland there were manifestations “people against Muslim refugees” in Warsaw 10000 people – not only men but also women with child, simple people that don’t want immigrants in Poland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J94wo4_Eks We support politics of your prime minister Orban, our polish goverment is weak and probably will not block Juncker plan but we have in Poland elections 25.10.2015 and this goverment will be changed. Pis (Law and Justice patriotic party) have 38% support of polish people and for sure will create goverment single-handedly. Then politics of polish goverment will be the same as hungarian.
Lengyel, Magyar – két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát
@Michael(Ha!), Hasan, fahad, poj,
You guys sound like a bunch of refugees from Pakistan. Voted one of the most liked countries to live in over the last three years. Stay there, nobody in europe wants your unruly kind. If you want to emmigrate, do so in a proper legal method as others have done so, or you and your kind will be deposited back where you came from. Oil is cheap, and we have many carriers to handle you back. Piss us off, and will state your all Gay when we return you.
@Michael(Ha!), Hasan, fahad, poj,
You guys sound like a bunch of refugees from Pakistan. Voted one of the most liked countries to live in over the last three years. Stay there, nobody in europe wants your unruly kind. If you want to emmigrate, do so in a proper legal method as others have done so, or you and your kind will be deposited back where you came from. Oil is cheap, and we have many carriers to handle you back. Piss us off, and will state your all Gay when we return you. Also, maybe we’ll even supply you with smuggled ‘Pork’ sausage on your way back.
Congrats, Hungary is the only country with balls in EU. Well done.
migrants were killed by Hungarian nationals in that refrigerated truck that entered in austria, children, women killed disgrace to Hungary and its racist policies, it is easy to be smart, it’s hard to be a man, once the Hungarian was in the hinterland of the Warsaw Pact is now in the European hinterland Union, humble and ashamed
Not a very intelligent statement since, it was 3 bulgarians and i afganistani that were to blame and inprisoned. Open your eyes and ears as the rest of us have. Stop trying to pass blame to who don’t deserve it. Communism in Hungary is over, get over it Commie.
germeny swedan most of war lover countries.swedan first granted swedish citezenship för surien when the civil war start.germany olsa stop dublin regulation for surien.so if l be surien country olready thisturbed thistroed by terorist and captain terorist esad islamic state and ather.ofcource they will move from turkey lebanon from urdun to germany swedan.but germany swedan olsa 15 years used bulgaria hungary to persecuted me in europeen union. which is the austrian interior ministry informing no one returned to hungary in this years from austria.no body returned from germany to austria that point germany and swedan love of they started war in surie with dictator erdogan turkey.so now time to stop war in surie or give them swedish pasport bring them to swedan or give them job in germany.
but l spitt your dublin regulation after we understand our jesus enamies persecuted me in europa with this regulation for mustafa copur
in turkey kurdistan every day from war killing child no one swedsih and german no give us job and swedsih pasport
christinaity for justice
no justice 2 diffrent feca they cheath them self
by smart is easy by human is dificult, shame for hungary, hungary people and hungary politics, you shoot on woman and children stupid hungary policeman
Igor, the ugly troll, are you back?
You actually understood what the F@ Mustafa ijiot preached. Sweden and Germany and the Whole of Europe are tired of you losers trying to start a life on our coat tails. Go back to the place you came from and preach and scream you BS to your Imams there and fix you crap like Saudi Arabia can. They have no problems with little girls and dollar bills. Go talk to them and live in there rich Shwarma world. You shouldn’t need passports or anything since your all the same brothers right……
Poles support the Hungarians! You’re the gateway of Europe – defend our borders, culture and civilization.
We know you support “Visegrad buddy”, we support you too for the northwest.
If things go to SH@T, you know we will be there defending for each other as we have done in the past…..
All the best up there!!
I would like to thank Mr Orbán, as he seems to be one of the very few realistic politicians in Europe.
I am a German, living and born in Germany. And I am very afraid of how the country will change in the next years. Our chancellor has made a big mistake to invite everybody and welcome everybody. In the media it is presented as everybody would welcome these economic tourists, but this is mainly propaganda. I am a middle class citizin (good job but either rich nor poor) and 99% of my friends are at least warried of the time coming. People and politicians who have forseen the problems coming with the economist tourists have been blamed as Nazis, but more than a year ago many people have forseen the current situation. You just have to look at Malmo in Sweden and you know how parts of Germany will look like. And really ANY critics (in talk shows, by politicians) was blamed as right winged NAZI talk. But now the wind changes, even mainstream media name the problems of the migrants: Poor education, undercover IS terrorists, etc. In most forums I read comments that Angela Merkel should retire. And even politicians state the problems: 90% of the migrants will never have a job and be permanently financially supported by German taxes (the tax payers, like me). This week 200 migrants disappeared from an asylum camp. Nobody knows where they went to. Well, on Friday the Octoberfest in munich starts… We will see… If only one of 100 is a IS terrorist, there are already more than 10.000 terrorists in Germany (recruting new ones in asylum camps).
Two weeks ago Angela Merkel stated, that Germany needs migration, so the pensions are secure (in Germany the currently working people pay the pension of the currently retired persons, and as we have more and more old and fewer and fewer young people, we have a problem). Only two weeks later a politician stated that the migrants will only get bad paied jobs and 90% will stay unemployed. And to finance these costs, German workers might work until they are 70 years old (instead of 63/65 depending on their birthdate).
So I want to thank all other countries in Europe who fight for our countries and fight back this invasion. And it is an invasion. Or how would anyone else name the army of young men trespassing the hungarian / serbian border?
What i fail to understand is on one side US, Europe, Israel, and Saudi Arabia is supporting rebellions against Assad(Syrian prime minister), who is trying to destroy ISIS and on the other side they are investing all resources in the media about fears of ISIS. Europe is paying the price of supporting American invasion of other countries, Europe should divert these immigrants towards US and Israel.
And what the mainstream media doesnt tell is that there are 70+ sects in Islam and Syrians are one of the most tolerant, moderate and peaceful Muslims unlike rest of the Arab world bitches like Wahabis in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait.
Do some reach fellow Hungarians before acting and posting and being threaten, fortunately due to internet information is just a click away, be knowledgeable dont just fall for the hype and misinformation being fed by the media.
Hungarinan, so cold people, inhuman. Shame on! Do not be surprised, i am sure, actions is going to start soon in Hungary.
Lydia (Troll), or what ever you decide to call yourself next. I think by now everyone is tired of you posting the exact same message across the internet. Get a life, stop jerking off behind the computer and find something positive to contribute in life. It’s not the end of the world for the rest of us.